{"id":4106,"date":"2017-11-27T12:37:00","date_gmt":"2017-11-27T10:37:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/debesyla.lt\/uzrasai\/?p=4106"},"modified":"2021-07-07T15:07:45","modified_gmt":"2021-07-07T12:07:45","slug":"mykk-triuksmas","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/debesyla.lt\/uzrasai\/lv\/2017\/mykk-troksnis\/","title":{"rendered":"Filmu tulkot\u0101ja (un veg\u0101na) dz\u012bve! Intervija ar Mykolu Triuk\u0161mu<\/i>"},"content":{"rendered":"
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Sveiki, Maikls!<\/a><\/p>\n

M\u0113\u0123in\u0101sim \u0161o sarunu padar\u012bt p\u0113c iesp\u0113jas vienk\u0101r\u0161\u0101ku \u2013 visus jaut\u0101jumus nes\u016bt\u012b\u0161u uzreiz, jo nedom\u0101ju, ka tas ir t\u0101 v\u0113rts \u2013 tas sagrauj visu sarunas organisko dabu. Es vienk\u0101r\u0161i pajaut\u0101\u0161u \u0161eit.<\/p>\n

\u2026Mani visvair\u0101k interes\u0113 tavs veids tulkots<\/strong>, pieredze. Ka tu esi veg\u0101ns<\/strong>\u00a0\u2013 \u012bpa\u0161i labi, pajaut\u0101\u0161u ar\u012b par to.<\/p>\n

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Cik redzu, nesen no ang\u013cu valodas uz lietuvie\u0161u valodu\u00a0<\/strong>tu tulkoji filmu "P\u0113d\u0113j\u0101 c\u016bka"<\/a>. Vai j\u016bs jau sen tulkojat \u0161\u0101dus darbus? Vai m\u0101c\u012bj\u0101ties par tulku speci\u0101li, vai tulkojot izmantoj\u0101t tikai labi p\u0101rzino\u0161u sarunvalodu?<\/strong><\/h3>\n

es<\/a> Neesmu profesion\u0101ls tulks, lai gan par ang\u013cu valodas zin\u0101\u0161an\u0101m \u012bsti nes\u016bdzos. Gad\u0101s, ka, piedaloties bezpe\u013c\u0146as organiz\u0101cijas darb\u012bb\u0101 (Es piederu organiz\u0101cijai "Tuk\u0161ie b\u016bri"<\/a>), kura pamat\u0101 ir br\u012bvpr\u0101t\u012bgais darbs, ir j\u0101uz\u0146emas da\u017e\u0101di darbi, bie\u017ei vien m\u0101coties darot.<\/p>\n

Mana darb\u012bba organiz\u0101cij\u0101 s\u0101k\u0101s ar pas\u0101kumu organiz\u0113\u0161anu, un mums pat\u012bk ar\u012b r\u012bkot filmu seansus.<\/p>\n

Tulko\u0161ana nav \u012bpa\u0161i viegls un pat\u012bkams darbs, nereti cilv\u0113ki to saprot tikai tad, kad pa\u0161i s\u0101k tulkot.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Lai gan lieliski saprotam, ko gribam pateikt angliski, tom\u0113r ne vienm\u0113r ideju izdodas nodot lietuviski. T\u0101tad, lai nenoslogotu vienu cilv\u0113ku, m\u0113s sadal\u0101mies un \u0161o darbu veicam vair\u0101kos. T\u0101d\u0101 veid\u0101 esmu non\u0101cis gandr\u012bz visu m\u016bsu demonstr\u0113to filmu tulkojum\u0101. \u0160oreiz m\u0113s to dar\u012bj\u0101m kop\u0101 \u2013 Saule Mila\u0161evi\u010di\u016bte un es.<\/p>\n

Speci\u0101li tulkot nem\u0101c\u0113ju, tikai cen\u0161os nodot lietuvie\u0161u valodas dabisko skan\u0113jumu. Es parasti tulkoju tr\u012bs posmos: <\/strong><\/p>\n

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  1. vispirms es burtiski iztulkoju filmas stenogrammu,<\/li>\n
  2. tad laboju p\u0113c konteksta, t.i., skatoties filmu<\/li>\n
  3. un beidzot distanc\u0113jos no ang\u013cu teksta un p\u0101rrakstu visu t\u0101, k\u0101 tas skan\u0113tu lietuviski.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

    Un cik ilgi notiek tulko\u0161ana? <\/strong>Teiksim, ja ir k\u0101di 10 t\u016bkst v\u0101rdu teksts (dom\u0101ju, ka vid\u0113ja garuma film\u0101 to ir daudz?), tad cik stundas tiek pavad\u012btas \u0161ajos tr\u012bs tulko\u0161anas posmos? Man ir saj\u016bta, ka tas ir atkar\u012bgs no valodas sare\u017e\u0123\u012bt\u012bbas, bet aptuveni?<\/h3>\n

    Tas tie\u0161\u0101m ir \u013coti atkar\u012bgs no filmas. \u0160\u012b filma nebija gr\u016bta, apm\u0113ram pusi no t\u0101s iztulkoju es un otru da\u013cu tulkoja Sun. Man vajadz\u0113ja ne vair\u0101k k\u0101 4 stundas, lai tulkotu ar sinhroniz\u0113tiem subtitriem ar pa\u0161u filmu.<\/strong> Kas attiecas uz darbu sadali, \u0161oreiz notika t\u0101: Solj\u0113 s\u0101ka un man sestdiena bija br\u012bva, t\u0101p\u0113c es vienk\u0101r\u0161i aps\u0113dos un s\u0101ku str\u0101d\u0101t pie p\u0113d\u0113j\u0101s rindi\u0146as, ko vi\u0146a tulkoja.<\/p>\n

    Un k\u0101 sadal\u012bt darbus, kad esat divi?<\/strong> Vai j\u016bs vienk\u0101r\u0161i \u0146emat tekstu gabalos vai ar\u012b p\u0101rbaud\u0101t viens otra tulkojumu?<\/h3>\n

    Iesp\u0113jams, t\u0101 bija vienk\u0101r\u0161\u0101k\u0101 filma, k\u0101da mums jebkad bijusi. Taj\u0101 ir \u013coti maz teksta, valoda ir vienk\u0101r\u0161a, un pati filma nav gara \u2013 tikai stundu. Visgr\u016bt\u0101k\u0101 filma, ar kuru man bija j\u0101tiek gal\u0101, bija B\u016bra atblo\u0137\u0113\u0161ana<\/a>. \u0160eit ir ne tikai neticami daudz teksta, bet ar\u012b teksts ir smags, domin\u0113 juridiski termini, da\u017ei no tiem lat\u012b\u0146u valod\u0101, kas film\u0101 netika izskaidroti. Varb\u016bt \u0161\u012b filma ir vair\u0101k piel\u0101gota ASV auditorijai.<\/p>\n

    Person\u012bgi, kad pirmo reizi noskat\u012bjos filmu, es nezin\u0101ju, ko \u0161ie termini noz\u012bm\u0113, jo iepriek\u0161 nebiju ar tiem sask\u0101ries. T\u0101p\u0113c pirms tulko\u0161anas s\u0101k\u0161anas interes\u0113jos un mekl\u0113ju. Ta\u010du m\u016bsu skat\u012bt\u0101ji filmas laik\u0101 neatv\u0113rs Vikip\u0113diju un nemekl\u0113s atsevi\u0161\u0137as film\u0101 dzird\u0113tas fr\u0101zes, t\u0101p\u0113c cent\u0101mies nodro\u0161in\u0101t \u0161o terminu tulkojumus.<\/p>\n

    \u2026T\u0101d\u0113\u013c m\u0113s sa\u0146\u0113m\u0101m kritiku no profesion\u0101liem juristiem, kuri redz\u0113ja filmu.<\/p>\n

    Tom\u0113r, manupr\u0101t, tas bija pareizs l\u0113mums, jo \u013c\u0101va lab\u0101k izprast filmu, un juridisko terminu neprecizit\u0101te netrauc\u0113ja nodot t\u0101l\u0101k filmas darb\u012bbu un t\u0101s galveno ideju.<\/p>\n

    Atrast inform\u0101ciju par "P\u0113d\u0113j\u0101s c\u016bkas" tulkot\u0101jiem, tie\u0161i nejaut\u0101jot, praktiski nav iesp\u0113jams. Vismaz googl\u0113 neko nevar\u0113ju atrast. Vai nej\u016btaties atstumts, ja filmu prezent\u0101cij\u0101s netiek piemin\u0113ti filmu tulki? <\/strong>Galu gal\u0101 tas ir rado\u0161s, citi teiktu m\u0101ksliniecisks darbs.<\/h3>\n

    Kopum\u0101 savos darbos cen\u0161os palikt neredzams, un es grib\u0113tu b\u016bt p\u0113c iesp\u0113jas neredzam\u0101ks. Tas \u013cauj man koncentr\u0113ties uz sevi darbs, labums organiz\u0101cijai un dz\u012bvniekiem, nevis tas, cik cilv\u0113ki mani redz\u0113s.<\/strong><\/p>\n

    Un k\u0101 j\u016bs v\u0113rt\u0113jat slikto tulku darbu? Vai, j\u016bsupr\u0101t, slikts tulkojums ir lab\u0101ks par nek\u0101du? <\/strong>Vai varb\u016bt tulkiem ir j\u0101uz\u0146emas atbild\u012bba un viss j\u0101nodod p\u0113c iesp\u0113jas prec\u012bz\u0101k?<\/h3>\n

    Tulkojuma nov\u0113rt\u0113\u0161ana, iesp\u0113jams, ir visvair\u0101k atkar\u012bga no konteksta. Ja t\u0101 ir komerci\u0101la filma, par kuru es maks\u0101ju naudu, slikts tulkojums patie\u0161\u0101m kaitina, it \u012bpa\u0161i, ja filma ir valod\u0101, kuru es nesaprotu. Un es esmu pielaid\u012bg\u0101ks pret nekomerci\u0101l\u0101m film\u0101m, jo zinu, ka tulkojumu, iesp\u0113jams, veiku\u0161i cilv\u0113ki, kuri ne tikai nesa\u0146\u0113ma samaksu par \u0161o darbu, bet ar\u012b dar\u012bja to sav\u0101 br\u012bvaj\u0101 laik\u0101 un, iesp\u0113jams, ielika visu savu sirdi. .<\/p>\n

    Un vai nav gr\u016bti iztulkot t\u0101s filmu da\u013cas, kur\u0101m tu piln\u012bb\u0101 nepiekr\u012bti? <\/strong>Man ir saj\u016bta, ka da\u017ek\u0101rt var rasties k\u0101rdin\u0101jums izskaistin\u0101t tulkojumu ar da\u017eiem v\u0101rdiem vai noliekt fr\u0101zi uz "pareiz\u0101ku" pusi? Es uzskatu, ka t\u0101 darbojas jebkura izstr\u0101d\u0101t\u0101ja smadzenes \u2013 mums pat\u012bk aizst\u0101v\u0113t savus uzskatus. K\u0101 j\u016bs ar to tiekat gal\u0101?<\/h3>\n

    M\u0113s parasti r\u0101dam filmas ang\u013cu valod\u0101, t\u0101p\u0113c j\u016bs nemaldin\u0101siet skat\u012bt\u0101jus, galu gal\u0101 lielais vairums lieliski run\u0101 angliski. No otras puses, m\u0113s pa\u0161i izv\u0113lamies, kuras filmas r\u0101d\u012bt, t\u0101p\u0113c man pa\u0161am nav n\u0101cies saskarties ar \u0161\u0101du situ\u0101ciju, kad tulkotais teksts ir stipri pretrun\u0101 manai p\u0101rliec\u012bbai.<\/p>\n

    Tom\u0113r tulkojums nekad neb\u016bs identisks ori\u0123in\u0101lam, tai vienm\u0113r b\u016bs tulkot\u0101ja raksturs. <\/strong><\/p>\n

    Tulko\u0161ana, \u012bpa\u0161i sare\u017e\u0123\u012bt\u0101ka teksta, ir interpret\u0101cija, un katrs vienu un to pa\u0161u tekstu uztvers nedaudz sav\u0101d\u0101k, piev\u0113rs\u012bs uzman\u012bbu aktu\u0101l\u0101kaj\u0101m deta\u013c\u0101m, t\u0101p\u0113c necen\u0161os no t\u0101 izvair\u012bties.<\/p>\n

    Paskaties, mani joproj\u0101m interes\u0113 veg\u0101nisms. Es dom\u0101ju par n\u0101kotnes rad\u012b\u0161anu\u00a0 http:\/\/7dayvegan.com<\/a> nokop\u0113jiet un uz\u0146emiet da\u017eas intervijas ar veg\u0101niem. K\u0101da mana draudzene nesen tevi sauca par "turbo veg\u0101nu", bet vi\u0146a nevar\u0113ja pateikt, k\u0101p\u0113c. K\u0101p\u0113c tu dom\u0101, ka tevi t\u0101 sauc?\u00a0<\/strong><\/h3>\n

    Ha ha, es nezinu, ko \u012bsti noz\u012bm\u0113 "turbo veg\u0101ns". Es dro\u0161i vien p\u0101r\u0101k daudz laika pavadu tie\u0161saist\u0113. \ud83d\ude00<\/p>\n

    Vai esat veg\u0101ns vair\u0101k mor\u0101lu vai ekolo\u0123isku iemeslu d\u0113\u013c? <\/strong>Vai varb\u016bt k\u0101da cita iemesla d\u0113\u013c?<\/h3>\n

    Veg\u0101nismu izv\u0113l\u0113jos, jo tas ir \u0113rts un sal\u012bdzino\u0161i vienk\u0101r\u0161s veids pal\u012bdz\u0113t dz\u012bvniekiem<\/strong> Man \u0161\u0137iet, ka veg\u0101nisms ir optim\u0101lais variants, tas nav ide\u0101ls, bet tas ir dz\u012bvesveids, kas b\u016bt\u012bb\u0101 neprasa lielas izmai\u0146as.<\/p>\n

    Nav j\u0101p\u0101rv\u0101cas uz vientu\u013cnieku vai me\u017eu, nav j\u0101nogrie\u017eas no sabiedrisk\u0101s dz\u012bves, j\u0101k\u013c\u016bst antikapit\u0101listam vai kas cits.<\/p>\n

    Diena, kad izv\u0113laties beigt \u0113st dz\u012bvniekus neat\u0161\u0137iras no vakardienas, kad tu t\u0101s \u0113di.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

    Viss, kas main\u0101s, ir \u0161\u0137\u012bvja saturs.<\/p>\n

    Vai tie\u0161\u0101m neesi izol\u0113ts? Piem\u0113ram, kad k\u013cuvu par veg\u0101nu, mamma mani vairs neaicin\u0101ja vakari\u0146\u0101s, jo gatavo tikai dz\u012bvnieku izcelsmes p\u0101rtiku. Un k\u0101 ar tevi? Vai j\u016bsu draugi un komunik\u0101cija ir main\u012bjusies? Vai ir biju\u0161as negat\u012bvas reakcijas?<\/strong> Vai vi\u0146i p\u0101rg\u0101ja vai palika?<\/h3>\n

    Man nebija nek\u0101du soci\u0101lo probl\u0113mu, kad es k\u013cuvu par veg\u0101nu. No sava pazi\u0146u loka neesmu dzird\u0113jis, ka k\u0101ds b\u016btu sask\u0101ries ar negat\u012bv\u0101m reakcij\u0101m no draugu vai \u0123imenes puses. Mani tuvie draugi un \u0123imene nav k\u013cuvu\u0161i par veg\u0101niem, ta\u010du daudzi no vi\u0146iem labpr\u0101t izm\u0113\u0123ina augu izcelsmes p\u0101rtiku, kad vien rodas iesp\u0113ja.<\/p>\n

    \u2026Protams, es sprie\u017eu p\u0113c savas pieredzes un, iesp\u0113jams, dz\u012bvoju \u013coti atv\u0113rtu cilv\u0113ku burbul\u012b. \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n

    Un, ja cilv\u0113ks v\u0113las izm\u0113\u0123in\u0101t veg\u0101nismu, teiksim, ned\u0113\u013cu, vai ir kaut kas, ko j\u016bs ieteiktu vi\u0146am izlas\u012bt vai skat\u012bties? <\/strong>Piem\u0113ram, k\u0101da lapa vai video ar ned\u0113\u013cas recept\u0113m, vai kaut kas l\u012bdz\u012bgs?<\/h3>\n

    Veg\u0101nisma ned\u0113\u013ca ir gr\u016bts bizness.<\/p>\n

    Visp\u0101r\u012bgi iesaku velt\u012bt laiku cilv\u0113kiem, kuri interes\u0113jas par augu di\u0113tu:<\/strong> vispirms nomainiet brokastis ar augu izcelsmes p\u0101rtiku, p\u0113c tam pusdienas, bet tikai vienu vai divas reizes ned\u0113\u013c\u0101.<\/p>\n

    Visbeidzot, m\u0113ne\u0161a vai divu laik\u0101 s\u0101ciet atteikties no arvien vair\u0101k dz\u012bvnieku izcelsmes produktu. K\u0101 jau min\u0113ju, veg\u0101nisms ir izv\u0113le, kas neprasa daudz, proti, main\u0101s tikai tas, ko \u0113dam. Bet tas ir ieradums, un var neb\u016bt viegli to p\u0113k\u0161\u0146i main\u012bt.<\/p>\n

    Nir\u0161ana ar galvu pa priek\u0161u varb\u016bt vispirms Es ieteiktu izm\u0113\u0123in\u0101t p\u0113c iesp\u0113jas vair\u0101k restor\u0101nu, kas pied\u0101v\u0101 augu p\u0101rtiku<\/strong> - to sarakstu var atrast www.augalybe.lt<\/a>. T\u0101d\u0101 veid\u0101 jums neb\u016bs j\u0101raiz\u0113jas par to, ko \u0113st, un pieredz\u0113ju\u0161i pav\u0101ri atkl\u0101s, cik daudzveid\u012bga un gar\u0161\u012bga var b\u016bt augu valsts p\u0101rtika.<\/p>\n

    \u0100, atcer\u0113jos - man ir st\u0101st\u012bts, ka ar\u012b augi j\u016bt s\u0101pes (dom\u0101jams, ir p\u0113t\u012bjumi). Ko j\u016bs dar\u012btu, ja t\u0101 b\u016btu paties\u012bba?<\/strong><\/h3>\n

    Augi nej\u016bt s\u0101pes, \u0137\u012bmisk\u0101 reakcija nav tas pats, kas nervu impulss. M\u0113s varam spekul\u0113t par nezin\u0101mo un teikt, ka tas, ka m\u0113s nezin\u0101m 100%, vai augi j\u016bt s\u0101pes, nenoz\u012bm\u0113, ka t\u0101 nav taisn\u012bba. Ta\u010du m\u0113s 100% skaidri zin\u0101m, ka dz\u012bvnieki ne tikai izj\u016bt s\u0101pes, bet ar\u012b tiem ir \u013coti pla\u0161s emocion\u0101lais spektrs.<\/p>\n

    Tur\u0113t j\u016bt\u012bgus dz\u012bvniekus par \u0137\u012blniekiem m\u016bsu spekul\u0101cij\u0101m ir nepareizi.<\/p>\n

    Bet pie\u0146emsim, ka augi tie\u0161\u0101m j\u016bt s\u0101pes un izj\u016bt emocijas. Jebkur\u0101 gad\u012bjum\u0101 veg\u0101nisms, lai cik tas ir nepiln\u012bgs, ir lab\u0101kais, ko varam dar\u012bt, lai nodar\u012btu kait\u0113jumu p\u0113c iesp\u0113jas maz\u0101kam dz\u012bv\u0101m b\u016btn\u0113m.<\/p>\n

    Viens dz\u012bvnieks tiek barots ar pietiekami daudz augu, lai pabarotu \u0123imeni vair\u0101kus gadus.<\/p>\n

    Vai j\u016bs dom\u0101jat, ka mor\u0101lais\/\u0113tiskais veg\u0101nisms ir sp\u0113c\u012bg\u0101ks arguments par veg\u0101nismu nek\u0101 organiskais veg\u0101nisms?<\/strong><\/h3>\n

    Es dom\u0101ju filozofiski mor\u0101lais arguments ir sp\u0113c\u012bg\u0101ks<\/strong>, var viegl\u0101k p\u0101rliecin\u0101t atsevi\u0161\u0137us cilv\u0113kus k\u013c\u016bt par veg\u0101niem.<\/strong> Ta\u010du fakts, ka augu valsts uzturs ir daudz videi draudz\u012bg\u0101ks, ir daudz sp\u0113c\u012bg\u0101ks politiskais ierocis.<\/p>\n

    Protams, politika ir net\u012brs bizness, t\u0101 ir sapinusies ar zemnieku varenaj\u0101m interes\u0113m, kuri apst\u0101sies pie jebko, lai atz\u012btu faktus un v\u0113rstos pret tiem.<\/p>\n

    \u2026Bet, pamaz\u0101m at\u0161\u0137etinot \u0161os korupcijas mezglus, augu izcelsmes uztura ekolo\u0123iskais arguments var\u0113tu k\u013c\u016bt \u0101rk\u0101rt\u012bgi sp\u0113c\u012bgs gan klimata p\u0101rmai\u0146u, gan, kaut ar\u012b netie\u0161i, dz\u012bvnieku ekspluat\u0101cijas probl\u0113mas risin\u0101\u0161an\u0101.<\/p>\n

    Ak, liels paldies par interviju, Mykolas! Bija jautri un interesanti!\u00a0<\/strong>Ja v\u0113laties pievienot kaut ko citu, jums ir vieta. <\/strong>Rekl\u0101mai, iel\u016bgumam, ko vien v\u0113laties.<\/h3>\n

    Paldies! \ud83d\ude42 Man liekas, ka esmu jau daudz rakst\u012bjis, t\u0101p\u0113c varb\u016bt neko nepievieno\u0161u. \ud83d\ude00<\/p>\n

    Paldies, Mykolas!<\/strong><\/h3>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"
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