{"id":13652,"date":"2016-02-21T13:51:00","date_gmt":"2016-02-21T11:51:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/debesyla.lt\/uzrasai\/?p=13652"},"modified":"2021-10-01T02:40:40","modified_gmt":"2021-09-30T23:40:40","slug":"interviu-su-povilu-panavu-kaip-as-ismokau-bendrauti-kalbindamas-nepazistamuosius-lietuvoje","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/debesyla.lt\/uzrasai\/lv\/2016\/intervija-ar-povilu-panavu-ka-es-macijos-sazinaties-runat-ar-svesiniekiem-lietuva\/","title":{"rendered":"<i>Intervija ar Povilu Panavu:<\/i> K\u0101 es iem\u0101c\u012bjos sazin\u0101ties, run\u0101jot ar sve\u0161iniekiem Lietuv\u0101?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Iedom\u0101jieties, ka k\u0101du dienu kol\u0113\u0123is j\u016bsu jaunaj\u0101 darb\u0101 uzaicina j\u016bs uz ball\u012bti. Teiksim, &quot;iepaz\u012b\u0161an\u0101s&quot; ball\u012bte.<\/p>\n<p>Protams, j\u016bs tur nevienu nepaz\u012bstat, t\u0101p\u0113c \u0161eit ir lieliska iesp\u0113ja likt liet\u0101 m\u0113li un ieg\u016bt jaunas pazi\u0146as. \u2026Vai vismaz teor\u0113tiski visam ir j\u0101notiek.<\/p>\n<p>Bie\u017ei vien, ja jums tr\u016bkst labu komunik\u0101cijas prasmju, j\u016bs nevar\u0113sit nevienu p\u0101rliecin\u0101t. K\u0101 murgs. K\u0101 var iem\u0101c\u012bties komunic\u0113t, ja sasod\u012bti nem\u0101k komunic\u0113t!?<\/p>\n<p>\u0160odien interv\u0113ju Povilu. 28 gadus vecs \u0101r\u0161tata programm\u0113t\u0101js un emigrants London\u0101. Vi\u0146a\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/povilas.panavas.lt\/blogas\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">person\u012bg\u0101s izaugsmes emu\u0101rs<\/a>, starp citu, tika izlaists ar\u012b 2014 Debesylos\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/debesyla.lt\/uzrasai\/lv\/geriausi-tinklarasciai-tobulejimui\/\">Lietuvas lab\u0101ko pa\u0161att\u012bst\u012bbas emu\u0101ru sarakst\u0101<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Povils vienu dienu uzsp\u013c\u0101va sav\u0101m bail\u0113m, lai sazin\u0101tos... Un veselu m\u0113nesi, katru dienu Lietuv\u0101, vi\u0146\u0161 run\u0101ja ar nejau\u0161iem cilv\u0113kiem uz ielas.<\/p>\n<p>Un l\u016bk, k\u0101 vi\u0146am g\u0101ja.<\/p>\n<p>Sasveicinies ar\u00a0<b>P\u0101vils!<\/b><\/p>\n<h3><b>Sveiks, Paul. Pirmk\u0101rt, iepaz\u012bstieties ar sevi. Piecos teikumos vai maz\u0101k - kas tu esi? Un kur j\u016bs novietotu sevi desmit ballu skal\u0101 no Garlaic\u012bbas l\u012bdz Betmenam?<\/b><\/h3>\n<p>Sveiki, esmu Povils un nemit\u012bgi cen\u0161os uzlabot savas dz\u012bves kvalit\u0101ti. Visambicioz\u0101kais m\u0113r\u0137is ir doties pensij\u0101 tr\u012bsdesmit gadu vecum\u0101. Es dalos pieredz\u0113\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/povilas.panavas.lt\/blogas\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">person\u012bg\u0101s att\u012bst\u012bbas emu\u0101rs<\/a>. Es pelnu iztiku, programm\u0113jot un invest\u0113jot.<\/p>\n<p>Es vienm\u0113r grib\u0113ju b\u016bt k\u0101 Br\u016bss Veins. Savus sasniegumus v\u0113rt\u0113ju k\u0101 asto\u0146us \u2013 Betmena apmetnis ir tie\u0161i tur. \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<h3><b>Past\u0101stiet, k\u0101du izaicin\u0101jumu pie\u0146\u0113m\u0101t, k\u0101di bija noteikumi un k\u0101p\u0113c izv\u0113l\u0113j\u0101ties \u0161o izaicin\u0101jumu?<\/b><\/h3>\n<p>Viens no vislab\u0101k atmi\u0146\u0101 paliku\u0161ajiem izaicin\u0101jumiem ir\u00a0<b>katru dienu run\u0101t ar sve\u0161inieku uz ielas.<\/b><\/p>\n<p>\u0160\u012b testa m\u0113r\u0137is ir ieg\u016bt atbildi uz vismaz vienu no uzdotajiem jaut\u0101jumiem. Es centos izvair\u012bties no situ\u0101cij\u0101m, kad tu vienk\u0101r\u0161i pasveicini un ej prom. T\u0101tad, ja cilv\u0113ks ignor\u0113 vai nerea\u0123\u0113, jums ir j\u0101atrod k\u0101ds cits.<\/p>\n<p>Esmu intraverts, t\u0101p\u0113c mijiedarb\u012bba ar cilv\u0113kiem nav mana stipr\u0101 puse. T\u0101p\u0113c es nol\u0113mu p\u0101rvar\u0113t savu kautr\u012bbu. \u0160is izaicin\u0101jums \u0161\u0137ita ide\u0101ls instruments sava m\u0113r\u0137a sasnieg\u0161anai \u2013 manupr\u0101t, vienk\u0101r\u0161\u0101kais veids, k\u0101 p\u0101rvar\u0113t savas bailes, ir st\u0101ties t\u0101m pret\u012b visu laiku.<\/p>\n<h3><b>Kopum\u0101, k\u0101 jums izdev\u0101s sasniegt savu m\u0113r\u0137i?<\/b><\/h3>\n<p>Pirm\u0101 ned\u0113\u013ca bija visgr\u016bt\u0101k\u0101, bija \u013coti bail k\u0101dam pajaut\u0101t.<\/p>\n<p>Ta\u010du p\u0113c otr\u0101s ned\u0113\u013cas adrenal\u012bns bija gandr\u012bz zudis, t\u0101p\u0113c s\u0101ku otro f\u0101zi \u2013 uzdodot neparastus vai \u0161ok\u0113jo\u0161us jaut\u0101jumus!<\/p>\n<p>Piem\u0113ram, uzs\u0101kot sarunu un p\u0113k\u0161\u0146i jaut\u0101jot: &quot;Uz k\u0101das plan\u0113tas m\u0113s atrodamies?&quot;. Vai ar\u012b jaut\u0101jiet, kur\u0161 tagad ir gads?<\/p>\n<p>Interesanti, ka cilv\u0113ki uz gada jaut\u0101jumu atbild ar stund\u0101m un datumu. Jaut\u0101jums ir j\u0101atk\u0101rto, ja v\u0113laties dzird\u0113t gadu, un tas ir v\u0113l sare\u017e\u0123\u012bt\u0101k ar plan\u0113tas nosaukumu. Ir \u013coti gr\u016bti nesmieties.<\/p>\n<h3><b>Un kas tevi satrauca visvair\u0101k? Un ko j\u016bs dar\u012bj\u0101t, kad bija gr\u016bti un grib\u0113j\u0101s visu izmest?<\/b><\/h3>\n<p>Bailes &quot;izjokot&quot; kropin\u0101ja manas k\u0101jas \u2013 visas t\u0101s domas galv\u0101, kas ir piln\u012bgi nepamatotas, bet izraisa n\u0101v\u0113jo\u0161as bailes un paral\u012bzi.<\/p>\n<p>Lab\u0101kais veids, k\u0101 tos uzvar\u0113t, ir tie\u0161a c\u012b\u0146a. T\u0101p\u0113c es pie\u0146\u0113mu \u0161o izaicin\u0101jumu.<\/p>\n<p>Tas pal\u012bdz\u0113ja, ka es biju publiski ap\u0146\u0113mies \u0161o izaicin\u0101jumu. T\u0101d\u0101 veid\u0101 es samierin\u0101jos ar iek\u0161\u0113jo un papildu, \u0101r\u0113jo spiedienu. Es turu savu v\u0101rdu, t\u0101p\u0113c, ja es teiktu, ka es to dar\u012b\u0161u, es to dar\u012btu.<\/p>\n<h3><b>K\u0101 j\u016bs jut\u0101ties p\u0113c izaicin\u0101juma izpildes? Vai sasniedz\u0101t to, uz ko s\u0101kotn\u0113ji cer\u0113j\u0101t, un ko iem\u0101c\u012bj\u0101ties?<\/b><\/h3>\n<p>Es lepojos ar sevi! Tas tie\u0161\u0101m bija \u013coti gr\u016bti, daudzk\u0101rt n\u0101c\u0101s k\u0101pt sev p\u0101ri. Gala rezult\u0101ts bija nedaudz sav\u0101d\u0101ks, nek\u0101 es gaid\u012bju: es k\u013cuvu p\u0101rliecin\u0101t\u0101ks un k\u013cuva viegli sarun\u0101ties ar cilv\u0113kiem, ta\u010du da\u017eas bailes joproj\u0101m palika.<\/p>\n<p>At\u0161\u0137ir\u012bba ir t\u0101da, ka tagad es var\u0113ju vi\u0146u viegli kontrol\u0113t. Sak\u0101mv\u0101rd\u0101:<\/p>\n<p>&quot;Drosm\u012bgs ir nevis tas, kur\u0161 nebaid\u0101s, bet tas, kur\u0161 k\u0101pj p\u0101ri sav\u0101m bail\u0113m.&quot;<\/p>\n<p>Katru reizi, kad izk\u0101pjat no savas komforta zonas, n\u0101kamais solis k\u013c\u016bst viegl\u0101ks un viegl\u0101ks. Visas bailes ir tikai galv\u0101 un dz\u012bv\u0113 viss ir sav\u0101d\u0101k nek\u0101 bauba liek dom\u0101t.<\/p>\n<p>Pats p\u0101rsteidzo\u0161\u0101kais ir tas, ka cilv\u0113ki neapmald\u0101s, uzdodot absurdus jaut\u0101jumus. Glu\u017ei pret\u0113ji, vi\u0146i l\u016bdz s\u012bk\u0101ku inform\u0101ciju un uzzina visu st\u0101stu: ka j\u016bs veicat izaicin\u0101jumu, k\u0101p\u0113c j\u016bs to dar\u0101t, k\u0101 tas notiek un t\u0101 t\u0101l\u0101k.<\/p>\n<p>Interesanti, cik cilv\u0113ku pirktu? Kur\u0161 p\u0101rbaud\u012bs?<\/p>\n<p>Lai gan ir biju\u0161i ar\u012b pret\u0113ji gad\u012bjumi. K\u0101du vakaru n\u0101c\u0101s m\u0101j\u0101s no darba atnest pu\u0137i pod\u0101, t\u0101p\u0113c m\u0113\u0123in\u0101ju pa ce\u013cam sarun\u0101t k\u0101du sievieti. Vi\u0146a \u013coti aizdom\u012bgi paskat\u012bj\u0101s uz mani un teica: &quot;Es tavu ziedu nepirk\u0161u.&quot; Ne sveiciens, ne k\u0101. Cik lietuvie\u0161i da\u017ereiz ir aizdom\u012bgi. \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<h3><b>Vai jums ir k\u0101ds padoms cilv\u0113kiem, kuri v\u0113las atk\u0101rtot vai p\u0101rsp\u0113t j\u016bsu piedz\u012bvojumu?<\/b><\/h3>\n<p>Noteikti veiciet otro, tre\u0161o posmu, lai palielin\u0101tu sare\u017e\u0123\u012bt\u012bbu. Tikm\u0113r kautr\u012bg\u0101kie var s\u0101kt, vienk\u0101r\u0161i pasveicinoties un iet prom. P\u0113c tam p\u0101rejiet pie komplimentu izteik\u0161anas.<\/p>\n<p>Un visbeidzot un pats galvenais: \u0161\u0101d\u0101 izaicin\u0101jum\u0101 nevar katru reizi dar\u012bt vienu un to pa\u0161u \u2013 tas b\u016bs garlaic\u012bgi un maz noder\u0113s. J\u016bs iem\u0101c\u0101ties sazin\u0101ties, tikai p\u0101rk\u0101pjot savas robe\u017eas un darot trakas lietas. K\u0101 es to dar\u012bju.<\/p>\n<h3><b>Lieliski! T\u0101tad, k\u0101du izaicin\u0101jumu j\u016bs tagad pie\u0146emsiet? Vai jums jau ir idejas, slepenas v\u0113lmes?<\/b><\/h3>\n<p>Patlaban liel\u0101kais izaicin\u0101jums ir k\u013c\u016bt finansi\u0101li neatkar\u012bgam tr\u012bsdesmit gados \u2013 sp\u0113t sevi uztur\u0113t bez darba. Gribu uzsv\u0113rt, ka man jau ir 28 gadi.<\/p>\n<p>Diem\u017e\u0113l pa\u0161laik m\u016bsu pl\u0101nos nav regul\u0101r\u0101ku 30 dienu izaicin\u0101jumu. P\u0113d\u0113jais izaicin\u0101jums, ko pie\u0146\u0113mu, bija katru r\u012btu pierakst\u012bt divus svar\u012bg\u0101kos uzdevumus, kas saist\u012bti ar maniem m\u0113r\u0137iem, un pierakst\u012bt vakar\u0101 paveikto.<\/p>\n<p>\u0160eit ir da\u017ei manis izveidoto paradumu piem\u0113ri, kas s\u0101k\u0101s k\u0101 tr\u012bsdesmit dienu izaicin\u0101jums: katru dienu lasiet gr\u0101matu 10%,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.43folders.com\/izero\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">sasniegt nulles ies\u016btni<\/a>, noskriet 5 kilometrus no r\u012bta nep\u0101ra ned\u0113\u013cas dien\u0101s.<\/p>\n<h3>Liels paldies par interviju,\u00a0<b>P\u0101vils!<\/b><\/h3>\n<p>Parasti es b\u016btu gaid\u012bjis, ka Povils ieteiks &quot;nekad nepadodies&quot; vai taml\u012bdz\u012bgi, k\u0101 citi bie\u017ei iesaka... Te bija jaunas un labas idejas!<\/p>\n<p>Tas ir: j\u0101b\u016bt gatavam tam, ka izaicin\u0101jums var izr\u0101d\u012bties p\u0101r\u0101k viegls, un nemit\u012bgi to palielin\u0101t ar papildu gr\u016bt\u012bbas so\u013ciem.<\/p>\n<p>Jo \u0161\u0101di so\u013ci p\u0101rv\u0113r\u0161 izaicin\u0101jumus \u012bstos musku\u013cu treni\u0146os. Palielinot slodzes, musku\u013ci aug, bet nepalielinot - n\u0113!<\/p>\n<p>tavs,<br \/>\n<b>C\u016bka Antanas<\/b><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Iedom\u0101jieties, ka k\u0101du dienu kol\u0113\u0123is j\u016bsu jaunaj\u0101 darb\u0101 uzaicina j\u016bs uz ball\u012bti. Teiksim, &quot;iepaz\u012b\u0161an\u0101s&quot; ball\u012bte.<\/p>","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":14527,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[6],"tags":[47],"class_list":{"0":"post-13652","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-interviu","8":"tag-santykiai"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/debesyla.lt\/uzrasai\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13652","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/debesyla.lt\/uzrasai\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/debesyla.lt\/uzrasai\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/debesyla.lt\/uzrasai\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/debesyla.lt\/uzrasai\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=13652"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/debesyla.lt\/uzrasai\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13652\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/debesyla.lt\/uzrasai\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/14527"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/debesyla.lt\/uzrasai\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=13652"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/debesyla.lt\/uzrasai\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=13652"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/debesyla.lt\/uzrasai\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=13652"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}