{"id":13466,"date":"2017-04-25T10:56:42","date_gmt":"2017-04-25T07:56:42","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/debesyla.lt\/?p=13466"},"modified":"2023-07-04T13:38:35","modified_gmt":"2023-07-04T10:38:35","slug":"interviu-su-savaitrastis-kaunui","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/debesyla.lt\/lv\/intervija-ar-nedelas-nogali-kauna\/","title":{"rendered":"Emu\u0101ru autors Debesyla pelna, b\u016bdams slinks <i>[Run\u0101 Svaita\u0161tis Kaunui]<\/i>"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Slinkajiem gan pasak\u0101s, gan dz\u012bv\u0113 liek \u012bk\u0161\u0137i, t\u0101p\u0113c retais ir iedom\u0101jies, ka no slinkuma var nopeln\u012bt. Bet izr\u0101d\u0101s, ka tas ir piln\u012bgi iesp\u0113jams. Divdesmit \u010detrus gadus vecais Danielus Goriunovs no Kau\u0146as, pla\u0161\u0101k paz\u012bstams k\u0101 Debesyla, nomain\u012bja b\u016bvin\u017eenieru specialit\u0101ti pret blogera karjeru, rakstot gr\u0101matu par slinkumu un jaunu izaicin\u0101jumu mekl\u0113\u0161anu. T\u0101s laik\u0101 pie\u013caut\u0101s k\u013c\u016bdas p\u0101rv\u0113r\u0161as par detaliz\u0113tiem padomiem citiem, k\u0101 no \u0161\u012bm k\u013c\u016bd\u0101m izvair\u012bties. Daniels dal\u0101s ar produkt\u012bvas laiskas dz\u012bves recepti.<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 Viss s\u0101kas ar kaut ko. K\u0101 s\u0101k\u0101s j\u016bsu emu\u0101rs?<\/p>\n<p>- Pirms aptuveni 13 miljardiem gadu gados par\u0101d\u012bj\u0101s m\u016bsu Visums. Un k\u0101du dienu es devos uz pas\u016bt\u012bjuma formu interneta server\u012b un p\u0113c datu ievad\u012b\u0161anas noklik\u0161\u0137in\u0101ju uz pas\u016bt\u012bjumu. T\u0101 rad\u0101s Cloud. Emu\u0101rs, kas main\u012bja visa Visuma n\u0101kotni. Nu, labi, tie\u0161\u0101m viss, ko m\u0113s dar\u0101m, maina n\u0101kotni \u2013 tas ir neizb\u0113gami. Bet tas izklaus\u0101s interesanti, kad es \u0161\u0101di sevi iepaz\u012bstinu, vai ne? Paties\u012bb\u0101 mans st\u0101sts nes\u0101k\u0101s tik interesanti. 2013. gad\u0101 Novembr\u012b, tre\u0161o reizi noskatoties &quot;Balt\u0101 Vanta&quot; izr\u0101di, man nebija ko dar\u012bt. T\u0101p\u0113c es nol\u0113mu, ka man ir j\u0101liek savi darbi (es izveidoju origami dizainu, z\u012bm\u0113tas zin\u0101tnisk\u0101s fantastikas kartes) tie\u0161saist\u0113.<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 J\u016bs emu\u0101ram nosauc\u0101t nosaukumu &quot;M\u0101konis&quot;. Ko tev tagad noz\u012bm\u0113 \u0161is tituls, vai vari taj\u0101 atrast sevi?<\/p>\n<p>- P\u0113c tam, kad pajaut\u0101ju draudzenei, k\u0101 nosaukt manu jauno blogu (jo grib\u0113ju to nosaukt par &quot;Daniela blogu&quot;), izdzird\u0113ju ieteikumu &quot;Debesyla&quot;. Atceros, ka toreiz krat\u012bju galvu un teicu, ka vajag lab\u0101k! Da\u017eas dienas v\u0113l\u0101k es re\u0123istr\u0113ju blogu ar nosaukumu &quot;M\u0101ko\u0146i&quot;, jo nevar\u0113ju iedom\u0101ties neko lab\u0101ku. Un kop\u0161 t\u0101 laika man nemit\u012bgi rodas jaut\u0101jumi par \u0161\u012b v\u0101rda noz\u012bmi, lai gan es pati to pat nebiju izdom\u0101jusi. Varb\u016bt vajadz\u0113tu izveidot interesant\u0101ku st\u0101stu.<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 Viens no taviem sauk\u013ciem ir \u201clai nav j\u0101k\u013c\u016bd\u0101s\u201d. K\u0101das ir liel\u0101k\u0101s k\u013c\u016bdas, no kur\u0101m m\u0113\u0123in\u0101t pasarg\u0101t savus las\u012bt\u0101jus?<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 \u0100, un pamaz\u0101m blogs, kur\u0101 man bija j\u0101run\u0101 par savu darbu, p\u0101rtapa par vietni, kur\u0101 cen\u0161os atbild\u0113t uz las\u012bt\u0101ju jaut\u0101jumiem. Es turpin\u0101ju p\u0101rl\u016bkot internetu un m\u0113\u0123in\u0101t rast atbildes uz jaut\u0101jumiem: &quot;K\u0101 tikt gal\u0101 ar trauksmi?&quot;, &quot;Ko dar\u012bt, kad ir gr\u016bti rad\u012bt?&quot;, &quot;K\u0101 atrast laiku hobijiem?&quot; Bet k\u0101ds labums ir padoms no internets, ja neviens to nekad nem\u0113\u0123ina praks\u0113? Es s\u0101ku m\u0113\u0123in\u0101t. Raksti katru dienu, m\u0113nesi nelieto internetu, veselu m\u0113nesi celies 4:00. no r\u012bta sadraudz\u0113ties ar 100 \u010dehiem viena m\u0113ne\u0161a laik\u0101, nerun\u0101jot \u010dehu valod\u0101, vien\u0101 m\u0113nes\u012b uzrakst\u012bt un izdot gr\u0101matu... Dabiski, ka taj\u0101 pa\u0161\u0101 laik\u0101 es pats redz\u0113ju, kas katru reizi trauc\u0113 \u012bstenot \u0161\u012bs lietas. Patie\u0161\u0101m, visizplat\u012bt\u0101k\u0101 k\u013c\u016bda ir nem\u0113\u0123in\u0101\u0161ana. Es joproj\u0101m no\u017e\u0113loju, ka nepam\u0113\u0123in\u0101ju izaicin\u0101t vienu meiteni 8. klas\u0113. Tagad izm\u0113\u0123inu visu, jo varu m\u0113\u0123in\u0101t. Man ir 24 gadi, t\u0101p\u0113c, ja es pie\u0146emu to un pie\u013cauju k\u013c\u016bdu, nekas, man ir pietiekami daudz laika l\u012bdz n\u0101vei (iesp\u0113jams, ap 55), lai labotos! - Vai Kau\u0146a, t\u0101s kult\u016bra un dz\u012bvesveids ietekm\u0113 j\u016bsu person\u012bbu un rakst\u012b\u0161anas stilu? - J\u0101 nedaudz. Pirms trim vai diviem gadiem es patie\u0161\u0101m piedz\u012bvoju Kau\u0146as dz\u012bvi un Kau\u0146\u0101 dz\u012bvo\u0161anu, jo liel\u0101k\u0101 da\u013ca citu autoru un skarbo person\u012bbu dz\u012bvo Vi\u013c\u0146\u0101. Kad pats s\u0101ku pulc\u0113t rado\u0161u un drosm\u012bgu cilv\u0113ku kopienu, es redz\u0113ju, ka tie drosm\u012bgie un skarbie cilv\u0113ki no Kau\u0146as nav maz\u0101ki par Vi\u013c\u0146as. Slinkums Debesylai tas noz\u012bm\u0113 las\u012bt sen las\u012btu gr\u0101matu, sp\u0113l\u0113ties ar b\u0113rniem, doties uz te\u0101tri vai ce\u013cot pa pasauli. (V. Kontrimaites foto) Tagad esmu Kau\u0146as iedz\u012bvot\u0101ja, jo man vair\u0101k pat\u012bk mana pils\u0113ta. \u0112rti, kult\u016bras pilni, saviju\u0161ies ar za\u013ciem parkiem un me\u017eiem. \u2013 Ko m\u016bsdien\u0101s noz\u012bm\u0113 b\u016bt emu\u0101ra autorei? Kop\u012bgojiet to, kas paliek emu\u0101ra mal\u0101. \u2013 Tas laikam ir k\u0101 programm\u0113\u0161ana pirms 20 gadiem. Atn\u0101k v\u012brietis un jaut\u0101: &quot;Ko pie velna tu te dari?&quot; Kam tu esi vajadz\u012bgs?\u201d Tad tu j\u016bties k\u0101 k\u0101ds Dieva aizmirsts atkritums, pazudis starp soci\u0101lajiem t\u012bkliem, mediju port\u0101liem, telev\u012bzij\u0101m un visu informat\u012bvo haosu, kas m\u016bs ieskauj. Bet tas tie\u0161\u0101m nav tik slikti. Man pat\u012bk, ka emu\u0101ru rakst\u012b\u0161ana ir k\u0101 pa\u0161am savas maz\u0101s gr\u0101matas rakst\u012b\u0161ana, ta\u010du nevis caur nopietnu izdevniec\u012bbu, kas st\u0101sta, ko dar\u012bt, bet gan caur savu pieredzi un dz\u012bvi. Pamaz\u0101m j\u016bsu ieskati non\u0101k tie\u0161saist\u0113. Cilv\u0113ki v\u0113rt\u0113 un lasa. J\u016bs komunic\u0113jat, sa\u0146emat kritiku, m\u0101c\u0101ties. P\u0113c 5 gadiem emu\u0101rs ir pilns ar rakstiem un simtiem las\u012bt\u0101ju katru dienu. Un j\u016bs vi\u0146us izaudzin\u0101j\u0101t pavisam nejau\u0161i! Emu\u0101ru rakst\u012b\u0161ana patie\u0161\u0101m ir paredz\u0113ta drosm\u012bgajiem, jo jums ir j\u0101b\u016bt me\u017eon\u012bgi atv\u0113rtam un nav j\u0101baid\u0101s izlikt kaut nedaudz no sevis. L\u012bdz\u012bgi k\u0101 ozoli un citi s\u0113klu met\u0113ji izmet pa\u0161i savas da\u013ci\u0146as. \u0160\u012bs s\u0113klas galu gal\u0101 izaug. Un skaties - aug\u013ci ir gar\u0161\u012bgi. J\u016bs varat sniegt interviju &quot;Savaitraschi Kaunai&quot; un baud\u012bt to. \u2013 Vai &quot;M\u0101ko\u0146a&quot; blogs tev ir darbs vai hobijs? Vai Lietuv\u0101 ir iesp\u0113jams nopeln\u012bt no blogo\u0161anas? -Str\u0101d\u0101t. Str\u0101d\u0101ju no 2:00 l\u012bdz 16:00. dien\u0101 katru ned\u0113\u013cas dienu. Cik tie\u0161i stundas ir atkar\u012bgs no iedvesmas un aktivit\u0101tes. Reiz\u0113m str\u0101d\u0101ju tikai da\u017eas stundas, tad lasu gr\u0101matas, citreiz str\u0101d\u0101jot visu dienu asaro acis. Un j\u0101, es pelnu. Es par to rakst\u012b\u0161u gr\u0101matu, jo, pieminot, ka pelnu apm\u0113ram 400-500 EUR m\u0113nes\u012b, visiem iemirdzas acis. Un es nopelnu tik daudz. Tas nav daudz, bet t\u0101 k\u0101 man v\u0113l nav b\u0113rnu, tad pietiek. \u2013 Vai j\u016bsu gr\u0101mata &quot;Slinkais manifests&quot; ir neliela provok\u0101cija vai labas dz\u012bves principi? - \u0160\u012b ir maza pozit\u012bvas un produkt\u012bvas dz\u012bves B\u012bbele. Taj\u0101 es run\u0101ju par visiem manas slink\u0101s dz\u012bves instrumentiem un to, k\u0101p\u0113c b\u016bt slinkam ir lab\u0101kais, ko varam dar\u012bt. M\u0113s varam b\u016bt darbaholi\u0137i vai izv\u0113l\u0113ties svar\u012bg\u0101ko. P\u0101r\u0113jais laiks ir atp\u016btai un relaks\u0101cijai. Slinkums ir vesel\u012bgs \u0137ermenim un pr\u0101tam. Es to pier\u0101du ar detaliz\u0113tiem p\u0113t\u012bjumiem, no kuriem da\u017eus veica ar\u012b Lietuvas Sporta universit\u0101tes rektors Alberts Skurvydas. Slinkums \u013cauj b\u016bt laim\u012bgam, jo var atv\u0113rt sen las\u012btu gr\u0101matu, sp\u0113l\u0113ties ar b\u0113rniem, doties uz te\u0101tri vai apce\u013cot pasauli. - Vai j\u016bs var\u0113tu sevi saukt par slinku? - 100 procenti.<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 J\u016bs stud\u0113j\u0101t b\u016bvin\u017eenieru, bet tagad identific\u0113jat sevi nevis k\u0101 in\u017eenieri, bet gan k\u0101 rakstnieku. Vai studijas ir nepiecie\u0161amas jaunietim?<\/p>\n<p>- Nepiecie\u0161ams? L\u016bdzu visus cilv\u0113kus uz tilta, kas saka, ka studijas ir vajadz\u012bgas, es labpr\u0101t visus ar kail\u0101m rok\u0101m nogr\u016bd\u012b\u0161u pa upi. Nejoko, m\u0101c\u012bbas nav vajadz\u012bgas. T\u0101di izteikumi tikai boj\u0101 m\u016bsu neatkar\u012bbu, tiek nor\u016bd\u012bts cits patiess ce\u013c\u0161. Bet j\u0101m\u0101c\u0101s pa\u0161am. Neej un m\u0101cies, jo vec\u0101ki tev teica (es pats pie\u013c\u0101vu \u0161o k\u013c\u016bdu), lab\u0101k nodarbojies ar sav\u0101m iecien\u012bt\u0101kaj\u0101m nodarb\u0113m. Es s\u0101ku rakst\u012bt tikai p\u0113c skolas beig\u0161anas. \u010cetri gadi velt\u012bgi. Nav nepiecie\u0161ams p\u0113t\u012bjums. J\u0101dz\u012bvo.<\/p>\n<p>- Ko j\u016bs dar\u0101t, kad nerakst\u0101t?<\/p>\n<p>- ES lasu. Es satieku las\u012bt\u0101jus. Es iem\u012blos cit\u0101 meiten\u0113. \u0112du karame\u013cu sald\u0113jumu un skatos multenes. Es pal\u012bdzu saviem kol\u0113\u0123iem ar vi\u0146u darbu un vi\u0146u m\u0113r\u0137iem - galu gal\u0101 nav interesanti, ja es pats to daru, bet citi ne. Es joproj\u0101m da\u017ereiz skaita nakts zvaigznes un bakstu savas mammas ka\u0137iem s\u0101nos, l\u012bdz tie k\u013c\u016bst nervozi un raust manus k\u0101ju pirkstus. Es baudu dz\u012bvi. Jo dz\u012bve ir bezj\u0113dz\u012bga un es tik un t\u0101 nomir\u0161u. Tad k\u0101p\u0113c es nevaru b\u016bt apmierin\u0101ts ar to, kas esmu, un pavad\u012bt savu laiku t\u0101, k\u0101 tas ir visnoder\u012bg\u0101kais man un citiem? T\u0101p\u0113c es priec\u0101jos par s\u012bkumiem un pal\u012bdzu saviem m\u0101ko\u0146iem.<\/p>\n<p>- Ja j\u016bs k\u0101dreiz uzrakst\u012btu autobiogr\u0101fiju, k\u0101 to sauktu?<\/p>\n<p>- &quot;K\u0101 izkrist no koka.&quot; Jo t\u0101 mani sauca skol\u0101. Un vienalga t\u0101 ir paties\u012bba \u2013 b\u0113rn\u012bb\u0101 ne reizi vien izkritu no \u0101bel\u0113m sav\u0101 pagalm\u0101.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"aGSCz7PSdi\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/sekunde.lt\/leidinys\/sekunde\/111918\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Emu\u0101ru autors Debesyla pelna, b\u016bdams slinks<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; clip: rect(1px, 1px, 1px, 1px);\" title=\"&quot;Emu\u0101ru autors Debesyla pelna naudu, b\u016bdams slinks&quot; \u2014 sekunde.lt\" src=\"https:\/\/sekunde.lt\/leidinys\/sekunde\/111918\/embed\/#?secret=aGSCz7PSdi\" data-secret=\"aGSCz7PSdi\" width=\"600\" height=\"338\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Slinkajiem gan pasak\u0101s, gan dz\u012bv\u0113 liek \u012bk\u0161\u0137i, t\u0101p\u0113c retais ir iedom\u0101jies, ka no slinkuma var nopeln\u012bt. Bet izr\u0101d\u0101s, ka tas ir piln\u012bgi iesp\u0113jams. Divdesmit \u010detrus gadus vecais Danielus Goriunova no Kau\u0146as, pla\u0161\u0101k paz\u012bstams k\u0101 Debesyla, savu b\u016bvin\u017eeniera specialit\u0101ti nomain\u012bja pret blogera karjeru, rakstot gr\u0101matu par slinkumu un jaunu izaicin\u0101jumu mekl\u0113\u0161anu. T\u0101s laik\u0101 pie\u013caut\u0101s k\u013c\u016bdas p\u0101rv\u0113r\u0161as detaliz\u0113tos padomos citiem, [...]<\/p>","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":17046,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[58],"tags":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-13466","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-kita"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/debesyla.lt\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13466","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/debesyla.lt\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/debesyla.lt\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/debesyla.lt\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/debesyla.lt\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=13466"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/debesyla.lt\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13466\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/debesyla.lt\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/17046"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/debesyla.lt\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=13466"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/debesyla.lt\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=13466"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/debesyla.lt\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=13466"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}